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		<title>On photography (and poetry)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The decision to complement the poetry on Likestarlings with an equivalent project using photography seemed to be an obvious progression, but it wasn&#8217;t until I began the process itself – by participating in the first Likestarlings picture chain with Ahmet Unver – that the specificity of photography on Likestarlings (as opposed to other visual arts) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">The decision to complement the poetry on Likestarlings with an equivalent project using photography seemed to be an obvious progression, but it wasn&#8217;t until I began the process itself – by participating in <a href="http://www.likestarlings.com/pictures/ahmet_unver_and_oliver_smith/1">the first Likestarlings picture chain with Ahmet Unver</a> – that the specificity of photography on Likestarlings (as opposed to other visual arts) became all the more salient.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">Whilst out with my camera trying to capture my first response, I took a phone call from a friend and attempted to explain the Likestarlings project to them, and the process by which I was attempting to respond to Ahmet&#8217;s image. In articulating this I used the term &#8220;literary&#8221; to describe what i was trying to do – referring both to my understanding of Ahmet&#8217;s image, and to the construction of my response.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">This got me recalling and re-reading some posts <a href="http://www.alecsoth.com/" target="_blank">Alec Soth</a> wrote on the subject of poetry and photography before he&#8217;d laid the writing to rest for a while (although he can now sometimes be seen over at the <a href="http://blog.magnumphotos.com/alec_soth.html" target="_blank">magnum blog</a>) and <a href="http://alecsothblog.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/poetry-and-papageorge/" target="_blank">there</a>, as if  to vindicate my expression, was a quote<span style="font: 13.0px Arial;"> from a review of Edward Weston’s 1946 MoMA Exhibition written by Clement Greenberg:</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">&#8230;in more than one way, photography is closer today to literature than it is to the other graphic arts. (It would be illumination, perhaps, to draw a parallel between photography and prose in their respective historical and aesthetic relations to painting and poetry.) The final moral is: let photography be “literary.”</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica;">Alec&#8217;s interest in the poetry of photography is self-evident in his beautiful books (<a href="http://www.steidlville.com/books/65-Sleeping-by-the-Mississippi-Third-Edition.html"><em>Sleeping by the Mississippi</em></a>, 2004; <a href="http://www.steidlville.com/books/374-Niagara.html"><em>Niagara</em></a>, 2006; <a href="http://www.steidlville.com/books/546-Dog-Days-Bogot-.html"><em>Dog Days Bogata</em></a>, 2007) and at the time of digging out the above quote he was writing a steady stream of posts on the photographer <a href="http://www.pacemacgill.com/todpapageorge-0.html" target="_blank">Tod Papageorge</a>, a photographer who before becoming a photographer was studying and writing poetry. I don&#8217;t want to further plagiarise Alec&#8217;s (far more) rigorous research (than mine), but it&#8217;d be a shame not to reproduce another quote, this time from Papageorge&#8217;s introduction to Gary Winongrand&#8217;s book Public Relations (1977):</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">A photograph is just a picture – or, as Winogrand would have it, “the illusion of a literal description of a piece of time and space.” It is as wanton a fiction as any description; but it is also, of course, a particularly convincing one because it so specifically locates and describes what it shows. As a poet knows that the words he chooses for his poem will, by their particular combination, resonate with a power that is the gift of language itself, so a photographer has at his disposal a system of visual indication that, even without his conscious deliberation, will describe the world with a unique, mimetic energy.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">Auden’s observation that “it is both the glory and the shame of poetry that its medium is not its private property, that a poet cannot invent his words,” could also be said of the photographer’s relation to the things of the physical world: that he cannot invent them. By being fictions and, at the same moment, returning their subjects to us with a compelling fidelity, both photographs and poems work with the same surprise&#8230;</p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">&#8216;Visual poets&#8217; and such terms have long become clichés for describing photographers whose work warrants reading in the way that one might a poem. But for many photographers today the attempt to be perceived as literary – in book form – is of more, or equal, importance to the exhibiting of prints. The rapid rise (in popularity and value) of photo-books attests to this and Papageorge&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.steidlville.com/books/503-Passing-Through-Eden-Photographs-of-Central-Park.html">Passing through Eden</a></em> is an excellent of example of a photo book with such literary achievements – one in which the book&#8217;s sequence plays as considerable a part as the images themselves.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial;">Whether the experience for those taking part in the Likestarlings&#8217; photography section, and indeed of those reading them, is literary, or not, can be judged in time. Either way, we&#8217;re thrilled to have added the section and look forward to the diverse approaches in which different photographers are sure to address the project.</p>
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		<title>Photographs from Livestarlings</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Smith</dc:creator>
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